>> we have to remember where the economy was at that point. there was thought that the market would go down to 3,000. there was a fear of actual collapse and i think what the president did is let's stabilize the economy. what's resonating in ohio and other places is his focus on manufacturing, on exports. people are respondsing to a sense that he has a long-term vision to what's going to make america economically competitive. i think what the president's strategy was is let's stabilize the financial system and then build a new strong foundation. >> but what does that vision -- part of the issue there, right, is there's the vision in the future which he talks about all the time and then there's the current problem and i think -- i felt sometimes a little lack of urgency coming out of washington about the jobs crisis and even in terms the way the president talks about the present from the white house itself in terms of talking about jobs. >> well, i think that the president if you look at what they did with the small business administration, wit